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Identification service

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:52 am
by Hazelnut
I implemented the identification guild service last night, didn't take long because I built most of it into the trade window already.

I'm considering changing behaviour from classic:

Only unidentified items can be selected into the right hand side. Classic allows any item but only costs unidentified ones. It would need a popup message to say item doesn't need to be identified. Maybe it is simpler to allow selection as classic does, less popups that way.

Thoughts?

Re: Identification service

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:47 am
by Interkarma
Awesome look forward to seeing it!

I don't have any problems with your proposed changes.

Re: Identification service

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:52 pm
by NikitaTheTanner
I think if you just restrict action to unidentified items and make clicking on identified not do anything, it will work. After all, the only reason you would click on identified item is by mistake, there is no other reason to do it. It might lead to a few seconds of confusion "Why doesn't it go there?!" and a moment of realization "Oh, my bad, it's already identified!", but there won't be moments where you move something by accident or get an annoying popup on a misclick.

Re: Identification service

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:23 pm
by Jay_H
The classic functionality can certainly go. Among the two suggestions, I'm leaning a little towards NikitaTheTanner's. For some players it'll take a little adjustment but I believe that period would be short, and in the long run it would make for a smoother experience IMO.

Re: Identification service

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:26 pm
by Hazelnut
I prefer to have a popup explaining why the item cannot be selected for identification otherwise to a newbie it appears broken. Experienced players will simply never see it because they wont click on identified items. (I know I probably will though..)

I will alter the classic behaviour.

Re: Identification service

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:43 pm
by Interkarma
I agree with Hazelnut. The player should always have feedback over nothing happening.

Re: Identification service

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:38 pm
by Jay_H
Very good. You guys have experience as game devs, so I'm certain you have the right idea :)

Re: Identification service

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:32 pm
by Blue Footed Booby
Interkarma wrote:I agree with Hazelnut. The player should always have feedback over nothing happening.


I'd agree the player should always have feedback, but that feedback shouldn't create additional work (ie make you click something). Text that appears for a few seconds (or until the next UI action) and a little "poink" sound would be perfect.

There should also be feedback before they even click the item, like having already-identified items given a different background. Or have unidentified items get a different background, so they draw your eye.

Re: Identification service

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:39 pm
by Hazelnut
Ideally if we were completely overhauling the daggerfall UI then yes, but I'm working on the principal of minimal changes for QOL improvements. I believe this is inline with Interkarma's intentions.