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Lord K'avar Quest Part III bug? [RESOLVED 0.12.2]

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:04 pm
by willtech10577
Hi Daggerfall Unity team,

I found a strange issue on my play through. I somehow toggled Lord K'avar Quest Part III without even speaking to the Queen Akorithi. I was in another quest in a dungeon and randomly I got the message while dungeon crawling

""Ah, (player's name), I was hoping you would come. My spies have located the elusive Lord K'avar. He has turned up at the court of Wayrest, of all places, apparently trying to obtain support for his pathetic claim to my throne. Wayrest would not be so rash as to openly give refuge to a convicted traitor to Sentinel, but he is hiding somewhere in Castle Wayrest, and I want you to find him and bring him back. Alive if possible, but kill him if necessary. Do not let him escape again."

I had to then start that quest even though I didnt even speak to the Queen. After capturing K'avar, when I fast travel I immediately have his image removed from the top left of my screen and all instances of this quest removed from my log.

As a workaround, I used TediousTravel mod to get back to Sentinel from Wayrest (a longggg ways - and the mod will have me run off the edge of the world so I need to keep stopping and restarting the fast travel) instead of the native fast travel. After "manually" running from Wayrest to Sentinel, I was able to complete the quest.

I am running the latest DFU build 0.10.23 build. I would attach my saved files but the Saves folder doesn't exist on my PC so not sure where else I can look. Please advise and I will upload.

Re: Lord K'avar Quest Part III bug?

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:24 am
by Interkarma
Welcome to the forums. :) Please see information below on how to locate save games. If you're on Windows, you can click the "SAVE#" text at top-right of screenshot in save/load UI to go direct to that save's folder.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2360&p=27552#p27552

This bug is going to be one we carry over from classic. A previous click on Queen Akorithi was stored within quest state, and no mechanism cleared that click (something present in most similar quest setups). But at the time of click, player didn't meet requirements for the quest, such as level or reputation. Then once player passes that prerequisite elsewhere, the quest suddenly fires because of the stored click.

While this happens in classic, we've tried to fix up all the places this happens in DFU's quests. I'll move this one to Bug Reports for someone to look at. A save would be very helpful, but not essential in this case. This is an old bug we're all fairly familiar with. Thank for reporting.

Re: Lord K'avar Quest Part III bug?

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:23 am
by willtech10577
Ah, wasn't aware it was a known bug. Biggest issue I see is if you didn't have the TediousTravel mod, you'd be SOL as once you fast traveled, K'avar image is removed as a companion and all entries for it in your log book get removed.

Got the saved zip, see attachment. This is the save right as I am about to leave Wayrest Palace with K'avar as a companion. Try fast traveling and you'll see him disappear.

Wayrest Painting quest started automatically

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:27 pm
by willtech10577
Not sure if this is another known bug, but I fast traveled from Sentinel to Daggerfall and instantly got upon my arrival

"(Player's name)! Welcome to Sentinel. I trust you have had a comfortable stay so far. Let me get right to the point. My son, Prince Lhotun, says you are a well respected and trusted (player's race). I have need of your sort. I am willing to pay you (random gold) gold to infiltrate Castle Wayrest and recover an heirloom of the late King Lysandus for me. Will you do it?"

Right after I also got

A page girl bearing the crest of Sentinel stiffly presents you a crisply pressed envelope. Ignoring your queries, she turns and walks away.

This is the second time this has happened in my play through. Attached is the save.

Re: Wayrest Painting quest started automatically

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:47 pm
by Interkarma
I'll merge this with your other similar report.

Re: Lord K'avar Quest Part III bug?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:40 am
by markstopher
I'm having a similar bug. I completed part 1 normally, and then spontaneously triggered part 3 just like OP. Proceeded with the quest, then got to the place where Lord K'avar is supposed to be in the Castle Wayrest dungeon, but he's not there. All I found in his room was a random enemy. I followed the instructions in this walkthrough to find him: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Lor ... t_Part_III
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Edit: Okay, I guess it wasn't a bug, he was just somewhere else. I expected him to be in that specific place, but I guess it doesn't work that way in the Unity version.