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DigitalMonk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:05 pm *** sigh ***

So, after getting incredibly excited, I picked up a Mage Guild quest from Midmoth in Daelia(?) (kill a rogue wizard or some such) which sent me to the laboratory at "Tower of Yeomhouse". After exploring for a little while, I started spinning the map, looking for hidden doors or open hallways and didn't see any, so I tried tele2qmarker...

And briefly saw a dead body before falling into the void, with the entirety of the dungeon approximately 3 dungeon diameters in the distance...

This could be a problem with Persistent Dungeons, I suppose. To test, just now I disabled it and wandered into and out of the dungeon a few times. The normal enemies are respawning, so I'd guess that the dungeon is refilling, but I don't know specifically when the main quest opponent gets placed. tele2qmarker still sends me to the void.

The only other thing I can think of is that "Tower of Yeomhouse" sounds very, very familiar, and I think this is the second time in rapid succession that I ran this quest. So, something like the following may have happened:

• Persistent Dungeons enabled. SmallerDungeons=False
• Get Mage Guild quest to Tower of Yeomhouse. Complete it. Go back to Midmoth.
• Set SmallerDungeons=True
• Get Mage Guild quest to Tower of Yeomhouse. Try to complete, fall into void.

I'm _pretty_ sure that I enabled SmallerDungeons BEFORE picking up the second instance of the quest, but it's Monday morning and it's possible that I took the quest while SmallerDungeons was disabled, then enabled it before going there.

I had hoped that disabled Peristent Dungeons would let whatever flush itself out of memory, but no luck.

I can provide a save if it helps. Dunno if it's something specific to this dungeon seed or quest seed or just something borked in my save.

Disadvantages

• If player is already inside a dungeon subject to this change, you'll probably be dropped into the void. Please ensure your character is outside before toggling this setting.
• If you have quests targeting a random location, they may no longer be functional. Best to clear your active quests before toggling this setting. Main story quests should be fine provided they aren't currently targeting a random dungeon.
• Unforeseen issues might result from this change. Please consider it experimental only. Feature may or may not become part of Daggerfall Unity 1.0. It might evolve into something else or be cut completely.

Jay_H wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:07 pm This is the perfect example of why this setting is not a simple check-box Hence Interkarma's warnings in the first post:

Disadvantages

• If player is already inside a dungeon subject to this change, you'll probably be dropped into the void. Please ensure your character is outside before toggling this setting.
• If you have quests targeting a random location, they may no longer be functional. Best to clear your active quests before toggling this setting. Main story quests should be fine provided they aren't currently targeting a random dungeon.
• Unforeseen issues might result from this change. Please consider it experimental only. Feature may or may not become part of Daggerfall Unity 1.0. It might evolve into something else or be cut completely.

Interkarma wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:10 pm Yep - floating skulls, red brick doors, pressure plates on the floors, tapestries, secret doors, moving walls, and more. There are loads of tricks built into various dungeons for getting around. Whenever you hit a seeming dead end, there's usually a secret nearby. The main problem is that DF doesn't help you find any of them.

DFU uses the same game data as classic. All of these little action records were put into the game by the original dungeon designers who built the block layouts back in the day.

jayhova wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:10 am You would need to remember the blocks that were selected once a particular game began.