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Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range [WORKING AS INTENDED]

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:28 am
by Jay_H
Classic Daggerfall has the Ebony Dagger at 9 to 14 damage. DFU's popup puts it at 5-10:
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Re: Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:02 am
by Interkarma
I recall there was some conversation around the real damage range being roughly half what was shown in classic. I'll let the guys (Allofich and Hazelnut) chime in here as they were most involved with this.

Re: Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:35 am
by Hazelnut
I noticed this once I'd done the weapon damage, but I was simply using the internal calculations already there for material dmg modifiers.

This is how Allofich explained it:

"Also, just FYI, I found during damage calculations that the damage display for weapons (other than steel or silver) in classic is incorrect. The values given in classic are what the damage would be if the material modifier was twice what is actually applied during combat. The damage is the base damage, before anything like strength modifiers are factored in."

So, it's a bugfix of classic unless anyone disagrees.

Re: Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range [WORKING AS INTENDED]

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:30 pm
by NikitaTheTanner
So, it's a bugfix of classic unless anyone disagrees.
Bugfixes are awesome and I am for more balance between items. Not sure how it will affect vanilla gameplay though. If it's not going to break the game by making late game enemies OP, I think it's a good change.

Re: Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range [WORKING AS INTENDED]

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:43 pm
by Hazelnut
All it means is the game is no longer lying to you about the damage of a weapon. Actual damage is unchanged. :D

That's how I understand Allofich's explanation anyway.

Re: Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range [WORKING AS INTENDED]

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:53 pm
by NikitaTheTanner
If that's the case, then it's really awesome! Good job, guys! :D

Re: Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range [WORKING AS INTENDED]

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:58 am
by R.D.
Hazelnut explained it correctly.

Re: Ebony Dagger shows altered damage range [WORKING AS INTENDED]

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:23 pm
by Jay_H
Sounds good, thanks everyone :) And to think that for 20 years we've believed that background option was a Disc One Nuke.