Populate the underwater areas with unused water sprites

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Populate the underwater areas with unused water sprites

Post by King of Worms » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:39 am

We have the texture archives 105 and 106:

105 consists of 11 static underwater sprites
106 consists of 2 static sprites and 5 animated sprites

Id like to see them scattered in the lakes/sea areas as well as in flooded dungeon parts
And opened for modding/upscaling

If u aim for realism than:
Sprites elegible for sea usage - all

Sprites elegible for sunken dungeon parts - 105_5-0 to 105_10-0 IMO even 1-0 and 2-0 can be used.
Whole 106 archive

Sprites elegible for lake usage - whole 105 archive but 2,3,4. Whole 106 archive but 5-0


Especially those animated water bubbles, see weeds and such are beautiful! But the statics are nice as well!

Its sad this artwork is not used anywhere in game.
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Post by BansheeXYZ » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:09 am

It's pretty clear they weren't used because there isn't any depth to oceans. Starfish, reef plants, anchors... these are things that would exist on a seabed, not an inside pool blocked from sunlight and ship access.

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Post by King of Worms » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:21 am

90% of those sprites in the mentioned archives will look good in sunken dung parts and open oceans are in DFU (or at least were at one point of time)

So the point u want to raise here is that u named a few sprites of 10s which dont fit in sunken dungeons? Thanks for expanding the list than.

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Post by BansheeXYZ » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:59 am

I mean... I only count 18 and plants need sunlight to exist. Even the silt piles are green with algae, and some of them have what look like seashells, seastars, and shipwreck fragments. It would look odd in dungeons, but if someone made an ocean depth mod, they look made for that.

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Post by King of Worms » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:34 pm

Yes, only some fit in the dungeons mate, I get it. Thanks for reminding the obvious twice.

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Re: Populate the underwater areas with unused water sprites

Post by Baler » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:53 pm

I really like this idea. I'd like to think this could be the foundation for future custom underwater object art.
Give buoyancy and water breathing some more merit in the world. Under water dungeons/caverns. Sunken cities.
Of course I'm getting ahead of myself. I'd like to see this happen. :)
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Re: Populate the underwater areas with unused water sprites

Post by Adrinus » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:14 am

For the ocean tiles at least, I imagine you could get things to spawn in the way the flats for trees and plants are placed.

I reckon the sea-level is exactly the same height in all parts of the game-world. So you would have to get the generation algorithm to only place things below that level. I haven't looked at the code, but I reckon a similar algorithm is used to keep trees from spawning below that line.

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Re: Populate the underwater areas with unused water sprites

Post by Ommamar » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:03 pm

This does bring up the question of how do slaughter fish and Dreugh (sp) end up in under water dungeon areas? What could they eat other then you who only wanders in on occasion?

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