Looking for character portraits/heads artist

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Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by King of Worms » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:22 pm

This is the thing I cant do alone because I cant draw good enough.

Im looking for a artist, who would enjoy drawing some heads based on the up-scales I will provide.

Currently Im using 256x256 portraits, but I can indeed enlarge it to 512*512 / 1024*1024 for you to have a better canvas. That should be enough to get the necessary details in.

The heads do not have to be crazy detailed, on the monitor, they are just this size:
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Current look of the heads is at this stage:
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And Id like to aim at this level produced by Sitrus (wishful thinking, but aim for the stars... :lol: )
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This is to go along with the paperdoll project Im working on
There are lots of heads to do, but even if u do just a few, it will move us towards the goal

I will also provide the upscalled bodies, so u have a better idea of skin colors and proportions.

I will take care of all the technical aspects, all u do is just a drawing.

Ofcourse, your work will be properly credited in the mod descriptions!

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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by BadLuckBurt » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:30 pm

What if we cartoonify our own faces? That would be pretty nuts
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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by King of Worms » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:56 pm

Not sure if it would not be immersion breaking :) But its a good idea!

Its sad this generator doesnt have faces looking directly to the camera, it works nicely, u can try, just click
http://dmheroes.com/

This is much more advanced and free as well, but I dont see the way to use it :X
https://overheadgames.com/epic-character-generator/

This is nice, but payed and Im not sure its fast enough
https://store.steampowered.com/app/6853 ... it_Wizard/

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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by BadLuckBurt » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:33 pm

I'll do some poking around later this week to see if I can find anything but can't beat real artists work when it comes to faces.

Polarstar is good at it but I don't know if he's up for it. His pixel art Daedric armor and the Nord face he posted on Discord are looking good though.
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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by polarstar » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm

I definitely could do it but i am not really interested. My personal opinion is that daggerfall is not suited to be that high res
It just makes it look worse. It could be high res and look good but that would require a complete redesign of the paperdoll objects. The original sprites are very stylized and are not suited for an HD upscale.

I was experimenting with repainting the head.
Option C is probably something that you are looking for,
but I personally prefer option B it looks much better and that's something I will be working on once I'm done with my armor mod.
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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by King of Worms » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:30 pm

So u consider the ingame screen on top of the page looking worse than original?

Well as always with art.. this is a matter of opinion 😉

I aim at replacing the 320x200 art - maybe the question is not what is better and what it worse here. I do my best to make it as good as possible in the higher resolution, thats about it.

Anyway, good luck with your project :)

Yes, B looks better than C btw.

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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by Leeux » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:41 pm

In times like this I wish I'd be an artist type myself, so I could help :( Sadly, not a single drop of artistic blood in my veins :oops:

Wish you could find someone to help moving the project ahead! Looking forward to it, the stuff you're showing here and in other threads looks already amazing to me! <3

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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by King of Worms » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:59 pm

:)

Well, Ive learned everything on my own since the start of the DREAM project, so if it will be necessary, I will learn how to draw the faces, buy the digital drawing canvas and do it myself, I think I overcame bigger obstacles already... last few faces will not stop me :twisted:

Its 180 faces in total, and 24 of them are already done in the excellent quality by Sitrus. Another 4 are kids, which are unused. So its 152 to go

EDIT: on the other hand, I still believe there are ppl who ENJOY drawing, love Daggerfall and it would be their pleasure. Like it was my pleasure to work on other parts on DREAM mod. So I will wait and see... but Im ready to do it myself if the duty calls ;)

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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by MasonFace » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:53 pm

BadLuckBurt wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:30 pm
What if we cartoonify our own faces? That would be pretty nuts
You could try using this GAN to generate faces, then take the image to PS or GIMP and apply some filters to cartoonify it, then just draw some artistic touch-ups on top of that.

It produces a random face everytime you refresh the web page, so you will eventually get a face that resembles a Daggerfall portrait enough to use as a base.

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Re: Looking for character portraits/heads artist

Post by BadLuckBurt » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:38 pm

MasonFace wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:53 pm
You could try using this GAN to generate faces, then take the image to PS or GIMP and apply some filters to cartoonify it, then just draw some artistic touch-ups on top of that.

It produces a random face everytime you refresh the web page, so you will eventually get a face that resembles a Daggerfall portrait enough to use as a base.
I has questions :lol:

Is that based on the NVIDIA one? What if we train one with the Daggerfall portraits we already have? That might yield some interesting results.

- edit

I should also add that I SUCK at drawing, it was the only class in school I ever got an F in. I've never been good at visual stuff. I can handle architecture since that's more math-based involving straight lines, set curves etc. but writing is more my thing.

I don't mind dicking around with these kind of generators to discover what they can do but I doubt I'll be the person to come up with great results.

That website is cool though, I'm looking into how to set it up on my own computer to learn more.
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