Monster Overhaul

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Ralzar
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Monster Overhaul

Post by Ralzar » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:34 am

I've started work on overhauling the monsters of Daggerfall. I am taking a look at the humanoids as well, but they use a class system contained elswhere in the code, so I have to dig a bit to see just how that works and if the classes are moddable.


This mod will aim at fixing a couple of things and could potentially be used for more.

* Increase power level of high-level mobs. To make them even more frightening and to make the game still be a challange for high-level characters.

* Rebalance existing monster to eachother for more consistent performance compared to mosters descriptions and in-game models.

* Increase power range of mods. Increase what is the weakest and strongest a monster type can be. For weaker and stronger normal orcs for example. This could problably be levelscaled, but I'm not really interested in levelscaling.

* Possibly rebalance monsters for Jay_Hs Unleveled Mobs mod, so the difficulty of the mobs in a dungeon type are more internally consistent.

* Change the look of some existing monsters? For exampe, making werewolves/boars bigger.


Possible future plans:

Introduce new monster types (more mod access needed, so not at the moment)
With the help of someone with know-how about the model assets of the game, we can make new enemies that are buffed or debuffed versions of existing monsters. Like giant bears or sabertooths. Or Gigantic Rats? More orc variety with some color details to mark the difference.


I'll try to upload a build later today.

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Re: Monster Overhaul

Post by Seferoth » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:51 am

Another great mod in the making, good luck with your project. :)
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Re: Monster Overhaul

Post by l3lessed » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:14 pm

Please keep track of any changes you make to attack related stuff. When I finish the player side of my combat overhaul, this was next. I need to add in swing arcs and weapon ranges for enemies, and I planned on working little on the combat AI too. Now, if work and personal life would slow down a little, I could maybe get the last bug smashed and combat overhaul released to everyone.
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Re: Monster Overhaul

Post by Hazelnut » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:18 pm

At present this is simply adjusting some values of MobileEnemy structs for mobs, things like damage values and health etc.
See my mod code for examples of how to change various aspects of DFU: https://github.com/ajrb/dfunity-mods

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Re: Monster Overhaul

Post by Ralzar » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 pm

Yeah, this is still in the very early stages and is really (at the moment at least) simply a readjusting of the enemy basic stats. Although the coding is fairly basic, the actual planning is a pretty complicated.
None of this would probably cross over with the stuff you are planning on looking at, except in how difficult the enemies are, which could have unforseen consequences when our two mods meet.

There is also the potential future ability to add new enemies which will require even more balancing, and the question of how it interacts with changes in monster spawning tables and mechanics.

So at the moment I am still at the point of figuring out how best to code this and what is possible for me to do and not.
I will update this thread as things develop though :)

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Re: Monster Overhaul

Post by l3lessed » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:13 pm

I plan on looking at it at some point, but do we know how enemies are handled by DFU? Does it have a system like Skyrim, where enemies can be part of a group, so if you add new custom enemies, they can be tied to a base enemy type to help with mod compatibility? Like how bandits all fall under a single group, and their base can be used for "new" enemies modders create. Or, is this before they did that system, and every enemy is individually coded, without any previous DFU definitions/templates/classes for connecting them past race.
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Re: Monster Overhaul

Post by daggerdude » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:37 am

I'll be following this!

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