High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by Nystul » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:50 pm

VMblast wrote:
Nystul wrote:as the one who fiddled around most with unity terrain I can tell you that unity is shit in terms of terrain...
there is a forum thread where 1000000 ppl complain that the terrain system is outdated like a decade. unity terrain is weakest part of unity
Hm, this is interesting. Any notion that they will correct this any time soon (eg 6 months)? What about plugin substitutes for terrain, like voxel engines etc?
here is the unity forum thread: https://forum.unity.com/threads/officia ... em.255232/

lots of talk about new terrain system which is still in the works and no much info about it (not to be expected soon)...

free plugins would be an option, but I don't know what good plugins are out there and I fear that a huge terrain like daggerfall's might always be a really test for such plugins (unity is just not enough performant/optimized to support large streaming terrains well - you might have experienced the loading stuttering when player enters new map pixel in our current solution - and quite some optimization considerations went into it like coroutines for loading)

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by username » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:33 pm

Check out my patch to remove nudity, it's a WIP but it's coming along quite nicely.

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by VMblast » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:44 pm

Nystul wrote:
VMblast wrote:
Nystul wrote:as the one who fiddled around most with unity terrain I can tell you that unity is shit in terms of terrain...
there is a forum thread where 1000000 ppl complain that the terrain system is outdated like a decade. unity terrain is weakest part of unity
Hm, this is interesting. Any notion that they will correct this any time soon (eg 6 months)? What about plugin substitutes for terrain, like voxel engines etc?
here is the unity forum thread: https://forum.unity.com/threads/officia ... em.255232/

lots of talk about new terrain system which is still in the works and no much info about it (not to be expected soon)...

free plugins would be an option, but I don't know what good plugins are out there and I fear that a huge terrain like daggerfall's might always be a really test for such plugins (unity is just not enough performant/optimized to support large streaming terrains well - you might have experienced the loading stuttering when player enters new map pixel in our current solution - and quite some optimization considerations went into it like coroutines for loading)
Ouch that is really a bad news.... :(

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by username » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:36 pm

So is there any way to actually use this in game yet? I don't have a Unity installation and even if I did I wouldn't be able to do anything since my computers so slow.
Check out my patch to remove nudity, it's a WIP but it's coming along quite nicely.

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by Nystul » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:39 am

VMblast wrote:
Nystul wrote:
VMblast wrote:
Hm, this is interesting. Any notion that they will correct this any time soon (eg 6 months)? What about plugin substitutes for terrain, like voxel engines etc?
here is the unity forum thread: https://forum.unity.com/threads/officia ... em.255232/

lots of talk about new terrain system which is still in the works and no much info about it (not to be expected soon)...

free plugins would be an option, but I don't know what good plugins are out there and I fear that a huge terrain like daggerfall's might always be a really test for such plugins (unity is just not enough performant/optimized to support large streaming terrains well - you might have experienced the loading stuttering when player enters new map pixel in our current solution - and quite some optimization considerations went into it like coroutines for loading)
Ouch that is really a bad news.... :(
Not everything is bad about the unity terrain, but I want to share my experiences and lower some of the expectations here.

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by username » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:22 am

username wrote:So is there any way to actually use this in game yet? I don't have a Unity installation and even if I did I wouldn't be able to do anything since my computers so slow.
So that's a no? :(
Check out my patch to remove nudity, it's a WIP but it's coming along quite nicely.

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by Nystul » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:07 am

not for now

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by Freak2121 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:06 pm

What about at a less detailed resolution like 400m/px or 200m/px. They would both still be a fair improvement over the original.

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by Nystul » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:14 pm

I would stick with the 36m/px heightmap. no reason to go any lower than that.
I just don't know when I will find time to try it out. Not too soon since I want to make progress with talk window implementation first.

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Re: High Fidelity/Eroded Terrain

Post by username » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:24 pm

So it could become a thing? :) I do understand gameplay comes first, but it is technically possible?
Check out my patch to remove nudity, it's a WIP but it's coming along quite nicely.

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