0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people [RESOLVED]

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0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people [RESOLVED]

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When compared to classic, town people in DFU are much more unfriendly and ignorant when asked for any kind of information: news, tips about an organization, building and people locations. This, even if you have a reputation of 100 with "People of (current country)" and if your legal status is "revered".

Therefore, it can take quite some time to find a person who actually knows where a building is located. Whereas in classic, it is rather easy to gather information, it feels also more logical: people should know about there own town or country, after all.
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Re: 0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people

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What's your Personality stat?

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Re: 0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people

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It's 100, I used the Ming savegame from the UESP, a very high level character with all stats maxed out.

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I've noticed the same sort of thing. I have a middling reputation and personality and have noticed a tendency pf people to be mean.
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Re: 0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people

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I have also noticed this; generally speaking, it takes an inordinate amount townsfolk to find a building in a town with only a tavern and about ten houses. Especially in small towns, I've taken to using "Info" mode to identify quest buildings and avoid having to speak with the townsfolk.

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Re: 0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people

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I've looked into this one. Disregarding NPC reaction to player, they have a 50% chance of knowing where a building is. This is probably fine in a large city but it's less likely in a small town where most everyone should know the local tavern or smith.

I've made a minor change that increases the chance an NPC knows where a building is as the town area decreases. So the smaller a town, the more likely the NPC will know about it. For a 1x1 block town they will have a 99% chance to know about the building. If they still don't know, they're probably the village idiot. :) In a max-size 8x8 city like Daggerfall/Wayrest/Sentinel, the chance remains at 50%.

Note: This only affects "where is" questions at this time.

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It fixes problem commoners not knowing places, but they still behave like jerks (maybe with low level characters? It's pretty clear say on CharmedBaryon streams that does permadeath runs of Daggerfall Unity), specially if you ask "tell me about..." kind of questions...
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Re: 0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people [RESOLVED]

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We indeed see this a lot in my streams. Characters with high personality and no bad reputation get angry responses to most "Tell me about..." inquiries. It seems the location questions get typically friendlier responses. Even factions I am a member of and have completed quests for will curse the player, mock them by telling them they know but won't tell, etc. when asked about something, as if the reputation with the NPC is quite negative.

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Re: 0.7.91: Unfriendly and ignorant town people [RESOLVED]

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yep, this is not resolved imho

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Concur
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