[MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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Re: [MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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For torch shining through wall - linear tends to be brighter, especially at the edges of light radius. For any custom Lights on replacement prefabs, adjusting down the brightness and radius will make it less likely to appear on other side of walls.

For bright city walls - it's likely because one of the non-colour maps (e.g. metallic) isn't importing as linear. Double check import settings to confirm that sRGB box is unticked for non-colour maps.

Hey KoW, is that shot from your DREAM update in progress? Looking good man!

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Re: [MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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I think the torch brightness/distance etc is the same with 3d models enabled/disable because I use "interior lights" mod to set up these parametres so they stay the same in the comparison shots.

Yes its from linear shaders but these sewers are work in progress and kind of my nightmare 😉

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Re: [MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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Bug no.2

This torch does not shine. When I disable your mod, it shines properly
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Bug no.3

Came across these lights more times. They have this aggressive very strong bright light. Strange thing is, enabling or disabling "improved interior lighting" does not change the light properties for this specific light. Something is wrong with this one, no idea what is causing it, but its a exception.
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Re: [MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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I took a look at this spot in editor. There's a couple of things happening here:
  • There are two replacement models with their own light sources in screenshot, both with a range of 18 and intensity of 1. Normally at this spot there's a single light source placed in between them with a range of 6 and intensity of 0.8. Mod adds two additional, brighter light sources.
  • There's another light source just behind and left of player not visible in screenshot. Normally this is a single light with range 4 intensity 0.8. Mod adds another light source with range 15 and intensity 1 in addition to the default dungeon light.
Short version: there are 2x light sources near player in unmodded game. Replacement models add another 3x larger additional light source for a total of 5x total light sources. That all adds up making the area very bright compared to base game.

Extra notes for AlexanderSig:

Those torch models prefabs have a very high radius/range - keeping in mind that under linear the falloff is different and edges of lights will be brighter compared to gamma. Lowering the range and intensity of light sources in prefabs will help with oversaturation and shining through walls.

And because replacement models are adding new light sources in addition to default dungeon light sources, any lit areas will always end up brighter than in base game. Worth keeping that in mind when retuning prefabs with light sources attached.

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Re: [MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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Thanks Interkarma,

while I agree with your assessment that there are additional lights in the modded scene, this is - to my best knowledge - not the reason why this scene looks like this. Thats because when I met this specific light in other areas where there was only 1 light source, it had the same issues.

Other strange thing about this one is, that if I use Interior Lights mod, it has zero effect on this specific light.

Ad the "shining through walls" - again to my best knowledge - Im 100% certain its not caused by the light radius, eventho it might appear to be the case. When I stand in a room, I can see the light on the other side of the room wall. Thats a distance of wall width. I think this issue will be dealt with after a rebuild of a mod

Have a look, 1st screen is with Handpainted mod enabled, there is a torch on the other side of the wall exactly where the crosshair is pointing, and u can see the light bleeding thru the wall in form of reflections on the surface. Notice, that if u look thru the door, u can see the light there in the hallway.
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Now, I disable the Handpainted mod, the reflections are 100% gone, and if u look thru the door to the hallway, you can see the light there is the same. So there is no difference in radius which is causing this, is something else. Btw I keep the radius and color of the light the same, using Interrior light mod. I made tripple sure its not THAT mod which is causing it.

Just open both images and click from one to another and u will see the difference is just the reflections.
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Re: [MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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The ceiling lights really do like to levitate in the middle of the air. If you could somehow use the script which places the torches on the walls to place the hanging lights on the ceiling, it would be great. Only thing Im a bit afraid of is that it might change the look of the game, if it places lights much higher :X

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Re: [MOD] Handpainted model replacement project (Release v2.10) - UPDATE Oct 2020

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This mod needs a rebuild :)
I believe most of the issues will get solved by that. Maybe some materials need tweaking, and the halos... Its almost appears like the objects do not change according to the light around. Something is off, but setting one thing differently can solve these I believe (same as it was in a DREAM in case of Roughness textures etc)
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