Re: [MOD] Cleaned SoundClips
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:22 am
I'm not a lawyer. But I want to clarify one point. And this page also sums things up rather nicely: https://www.pdinfo.com/copyright-law/pu ... rdings.php
There's no way the Hanna-Barbera library is public domain.
Think of the Hanna-Barbera CDs as a set of sample CDs you'd buy today for various electronic music projects, where you can use the samples and sounds in any project you want, mangle them however you want, and release the work even commercially. Same concept.
Now, those original old sounds from the original shows in their original formats may not be under copyright law, but in some states, they are still protected by common law and anti-piracy until 2067, and that goes for any sound recording released before 1972. But that is state law, not federal law. However, sound recordings made and released after 1972 will enter public domain in 2043, or something like that. Those laws pretty much hold for all recorded sounds. Unfortunately the first recorded LPs of the show sound effects came out in the 80's And then Sound Ideas released the digital formats in the 1990's. So the copyright laws are still in effect for those formats.
On that note, I think you can find the old LPs for cheaper on Amazon sometimes. But you'd need a turntable that outputs to digital format either by recording the output into an interface and DAW or USB.
So, in a nutshell, those old Hanna-Barbera sounds in the LP and CD formats will not be public domain until at least 2043. The original sound recordings won't be truly public-domain until 2067......and that goes for ANY sound recording released in the USA, really.
However if you buy the license, you can use them however you want for private and commercial projects. They're just royalty free, meaning you don't have to pay additional mechanical license fees or songwriting/publisher royalties to HFA/Soundexchange or BMI/ASCAP and the like when you publish whatever work you use them in. Just think of it as an extensive sample library CD that has a buttload of sounds..........totally not worth the price IMO, mind you.
The other points mentioned by the attorney seem valid.
I'm just getting involved to clarify, since I've been doing my own reading on things lately because I just joined BMI as a songwriter, and got my works registered because the band I'm in is releasing a 4-song EP soon, and two of my works will be recorded. Not that I ever expect to see a dime from songwriter/publisher royalties, but hey, a film or TV series could pick up one of my works to use. Or something could see radio play somewhere some day. But that's neither here nor there.
There's no way the Hanna-Barbera library is public domain.
Think of the Hanna-Barbera CDs as a set of sample CDs you'd buy today for various electronic music projects, where you can use the samples and sounds in any project you want, mangle them however you want, and release the work even commercially. Same concept.
Now, those original old sounds from the original shows in their original formats may not be under copyright law, but in some states, they are still protected by common law and anti-piracy until 2067, and that goes for any sound recording released before 1972. But that is state law, not federal law. However, sound recordings made and released after 1972 will enter public domain in 2043, or something like that. Those laws pretty much hold for all recorded sounds. Unfortunately the first recorded LPs of the show sound effects came out in the 80's And then Sound Ideas released the digital formats in the 1990's. So the copyright laws are still in effect for those formats.
On that note, I think you can find the old LPs for cheaper on Amazon sometimes. But you'd need a turntable that outputs to digital format either by recording the output into an interface and DAW or USB.
So, in a nutshell, those old Hanna-Barbera sounds in the LP and CD formats will not be public domain until at least 2043. The original sound recordings won't be truly public-domain until 2067......and that goes for ANY sound recording released in the USA, really.
However if you buy the license, you can use them however you want for private and commercial projects. They're just royalty free, meaning you don't have to pay additional mechanical license fees or songwriting/publisher royalties to HFA/Soundexchange or BMI/ASCAP and the like when you publish whatever work you use them in. Just think of it as an extensive sample library CD that has a buttload of sounds..........totally not worth the price IMO, mind you.
The other points mentioned by the attorney seem valid.
I'm just getting involved to clarify, since I've been doing my own reading on things lately because I just joined BMI as a songwriter, and got my works registered because the band I'm in is releasing a 4-song EP soon, and two of my works will be recorded. Not that I ever expect to see a dime from songwriter/publisher royalties, but hey, a film or TV series could pick up one of my works to use. Or something could see radio play somewhere some day. But that's neither here nor there.