[Not compatible with 0.10.15+ - Update TBA] Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.4 (12/08/2019)

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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by DFIronman » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:43 am

Updated to v0.2.2. Disabling the "Enemies Transition With You" setting didn't do anything. Whoops, sorry.

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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by Ralzar » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:10 am

I create characters and play them in ways that have enough difficulties as it is, so I don't use Ironman, but I'm loving the gameplay changes of the Ironman Game Systems mod. For me it's a great companion to the RP&Realism mod for making it a better RP experience.
It's interesting how much more missing I'm doing with the Critical Strike change. I had no idea how much that was helping me until it was switched to doing actual crits with this mod.
I haven't tested out the "enemies following you" setting, but that looks like just the kind of thing I like. Where exploits are removed in favour of realism.
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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by DFIronman » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:43 pm

Hey, Ralzar, glad you're enjoying the mod! Ironman adds executions to the court system, so you may want to leave Ironman enabled, but just select "No" on the Ironman game mode question at the start of a new game.

You won't lose any saves with the mod enabled when playing non-Ironman characters (as long as the name of the non-Ironman character is not the exact same as an Ironman character).

Hope you continue to enjoy future versions - thanks for the feedback!

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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by Ralzar » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:13 am

Oh, that's nice to know. I don't think I actually put the Ironman mod in the stremaingassets folder. I'll make sure to do that.
I usually play with only one save and no take-back, so quests get failed I get sick etc without loading, but there's just too man cheap deaths in Daggerfall to make me want to risk all my hard work suddenly getting deleted. With one save there's still a bit of risk. All that's needed is to make a save while in a dungeon I can't find my way out of or while sick/poisoned with no cure close enough.

I very much see the appeal of ironman though.
Suggestion: How about a variant that gives you "lives? So you, for example, start with 5 lives and then it counts down for each death and at 0 lives it deletes the save?

Question: The settings for not pausing the game? Does this make it not pause when you go into the menu screen to save or exit? I actually like the concept of the game not pausing while in inventory screens, but I need a way to pause the game when my wife wants my attention :D
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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by Jay_H » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:48 pm

The game fails to pause everywhere except the console and the court system. You can open the console with ~ and give yourself a break as needed.
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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by Hazelnut » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:01 pm

Surely the cheater's console is disabled by ironman systems?? 8-)
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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by Jay_H » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Nah, Ironman wanted to keep it in as a failsafe. And besides, you'll still want access to things like teleport, tele2qmarker, and enddebugquest when things go very badly :)
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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by haloterm » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:06 pm

Hm, for some reason, since I updated to 0.10.8, ironman does not seem to save an exit save anymore automatically (or does not work really at all, as I can load and save freely again, as if it's not installed). But it is activated as before in my load order.

Edit: Although it may also be related to updating a bunch of other mods, such as Warm Ashes, for 0.10.8...

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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by Hazelnut » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:31 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but this mod has not had a release compatible with 0.10.8 yet. You should probably not upgrade DFU until the mods are updated.
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Re: Ironman and Ironman Game Systems v0.2.2 (10/13/2019)

Post by haloterm » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:05 pm

Hazelnut wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:31 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but this mod has not had a release compatible with 0.10.8 yet. You should probably not upgrade DFU until the mods are updated.
I see. Do new updates of DFU break mods always, or can some still work as intended?

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