[0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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0.11.4 - Possible floating Y void issue using teleport to an interior

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Reported on reddit. Adding for investigation later.

https://www.reddit.com/r/daggerfallunit ... ion_after/
I've tried to run a few tests, here is what seems to work consistently. It seems to only happen with crypts specifically. It only happens when you quit the game and reload:
  1. 1. Enter the interior of a building in any town, cast Recall and set an anchor.
    2. Leave the building and fast travel to any crypt. Enter the crypt and save the game.
    3. At this point casting Recall and teleporting will work.
    4. Quit the game. Start it back up and load the save in the crypt.
    5. Cast Recall and click teleport. You should enter blackness and fall forever.
Anyone else able to replicate this?

Edit: No mods, using DFU 0.11.4 beta

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[0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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As seen on a recent TalonHatesNames, after finishing a dungeon quest, he recalled into the Void, some distance from the mages guild he anchored in: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1148203958?t=2h6m4s
I don't think we have any such known bug standing, but I could be missing something.

Reloading and retrying worked (02:07:40), so getting a game save probably won't help.
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Re: [0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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Not sure on this one. Will need to find a way to reproduce. Thanks for letting me know. :)

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Re: [0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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Happened again in a later stream, trying to teleport to the same mages guild (I think)...
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1151941479?t=2h10s
Interestingly, it was near the beginning of the stream, so he had just reloaded inside the dungeon, maybe I was wrong about the problem not being captured by gamesaves...

So I went there (Graygate Hollow, Illessan Hills), set an anchor, took a dungeon quest, saved inside the dungeon.
I immediately cast recall and got teleported to the mages guild as expected.
I reload the gamesave (attached) and cast recall, I got recalled into the Void, just like in TalonHatesNames' stream.
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Re: [0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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Smells like a floating Y issue to me. Thanks for steps to reproduce. :)

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Re: [0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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Shouldn't one teleport strictly above or below the mages guild then? What's a bit unusual is that you recall on the side, maybe even always at the same spot (comparing streams and my gamesave visually) but it's hard to be sure...
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PS. Scratch that, you probably meant a floating origin issue, so that's not incompatible with recalling on the side
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Re: [0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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You're right, it's probably just floating origin generally. Just most of this class of problem have been since the Y change so I kind of blame it for everything now.

This is a new problem though, I wasn't aware of this one. It might be a much older issue that's never been properly uncovered until now.

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Re: [0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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I'm getting this frequently, it's obnoxious. Always happens when I teleport from a dungeon into a mages' guild or temple.

This time using the console to get out (tele2exit, tele2pixel) is not working since it says it can't locate the player.

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Re: [0.12.3 unmodded] Recall into the Void

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Merging two related issues together.

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