Re: Daggerfall Unity Wiki
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:16 pm
Azteca, I love the work you all have already put into that Google doc - very impressive! I think it does a great job of flagging the main tasks for the new wiki. Just some thoughts (and sorry if any of this has already been discussed on discord; underlining used to try to clarify this ridiculous wall of text):
I think many of the bulleted topics in the doc could be usefully consolidated among a fairly small number of DFU wiki pages. Anything that's shared identically between DFU and classic Daggerfall should instead logically be updated on the classic Daggerfall wiki pages (controls, mechanics, gameplay explanations, etc. - e.g. how charm/pacify spells work), which would significantly reduce the amount of DFU-specific page content. In any case, working with your listed topics, here's a mini-brainstorm for the overall page layout:
-DFU:FAQ (high-level discussion of the project, with links to other classic Daggerfall pages and/or the below DFU wiki pages as appropriate)
-DFU:Differences from Daggerfall (this would probably be the biggest DFU wiki page by far, and would conveniently index complete lists of 1) all bugs/exploits fixed and 2) all features added including UI/control scheme/gameplay changes; certain major changes - e.g. character creation/resistance mechanic changes - may be broken into their own dedicated sections; Banshee's topic at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1662, though an incomplete list, would be a useful starting point here; although this page would have a lot of info, I would strongly prefer all of these differences to be in one place with a linked index at the top of the page and dedicated sections within the page addressing major changes)
-DFU:Installation and Troubleshooting (repository for all related topics, including DFU base installation, location of saves, logs/inis, common technical problems and solutions)
-DFU:Mods (high-level discussion of modding and mod installation)
-DFU:Mods:Graphics, DFU:Mods:Quests, etc. (I'm leaning towards thematic instead of alphabetical organization, e.g. "Mods:Graphics" would include descriptions and links to DREAM, AlexSig's models mod, etc., "Mods:Questing" would host links to Jay_H's and similar mods, etc.; the Nexus can be referenced for help with defining mod categories)
FYI as to my involvement, although I've been active on the forums on and off over the past few months, I'm afraid I can't commit myself to a specific schedule to assist with this (I've been traveling for extended periods for work this year and have often had a fair amount of free time in the evenings, but when I'm home with family I want to focus more on RL stuff). That said, my personal priority has been and will likely continue to be updating the classic Daggerfall pages as a "base"/companion to the DFU-specific pages (see my notes above). I've already made some significant (I hope) improvements to the 8 "Races" pages (clarified racial advantages etc.), the "Attributes"/"Combat"/"Critical Strike"/"Dodging"/"Stealth"/"Reputation" pages (expanding on classic Daggerfall gameplay bugs and mechanics), and the "Armor"/"Artifacts"/"Items"/"Weapons" pages (correcting information on equipment material modifiers, classic Daggerfall UI display bugs, etc.). Currently, I'm hoping for more data to further edit the Armor page (see discussion at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2478#p28907), and am following another discussion - classic testers needed! - re: Reputation and a possible DFU bug (see discussion at viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2424&start=30#p28691). Beyond that, I'd like to just continue to pick away at pages that need updating as I have the time.
This is about all from me for the mo. Really happy to see you all take the initiative on this - a clear and organized DFU wiki will help the community immensely, including the developers who have had to devote a huge amount of time recently answering the same questions repeatedly. Will keep a close eye on progress!
I think many of the bulleted topics in the doc could be usefully consolidated among a fairly small number of DFU wiki pages. Anything that's shared identically between DFU and classic Daggerfall should instead logically be updated on the classic Daggerfall wiki pages (controls, mechanics, gameplay explanations, etc. - e.g. how charm/pacify spells work), which would significantly reduce the amount of DFU-specific page content. In any case, working with your listed topics, here's a mini-brainstorm for the overall page layout:
-DFU:FAQ (high-level discussion of the project, with links to other classic Daggerfall pages and/or the below DFU wiki pages as appropriate)
-DFU:Differences from Daggerfall (this would probably be the biggest DFU wiki page by far, and would conveniently index complete lists of 1) all bugs/exploits fixed and 2) all features added including UI/control scheme/gameplay changes; certain major changes - e.g. character creation/resistance mechanic changes - may be broken into their own dedicated sections; Banshee's topic at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1662, though an incomplete list, would be a useful starting point here; although this page would have a lot of info, I would strongly prefer all of these differences to be in one place with a linked index at the top of the page and dedicated sections within the page addressing major changes)
-DFU:Installation and Troubleshooting (repository for all related topics, including DFU base installation, location of saves, logs/inis, common technical problems and solutions)
-DFU:Mods (high-level discussion of modding and mod installation)
-DFU:Mods:Graphics, DFU:Mods:Quests, etc. (I'm leaning towards thematic instead of alphabetical organization, e.g. "Mods:Graphics" would include descriptions and links to DREAM, AlexSig's models mod, etc., "Mods:Questing" would host links to Jay_H's and similar mods, etc.; the Nexus can be referenced for help with defining mod categories)
FYI as to my involvement, although I've been active on the forums on and off over the past few months, I'm afraid I can't commit myself to a specific schedule to assist with this (I've been traveling for extended periods for work this year and have often had a fair amount of free time in the evenings, but when I'm home with family I want to focus more on RL stuff). That said, my personal priority has been and will likely continue to be updating the classic Daggerfall pages as a "base"/companion to the DFU-specific pages (see my notes above). I've already made some significant (I hope) improvements to the 8 "Races" pages (clarified racial advantages etc.), the "Attributes"/"Combat"/"Critical Strike"/"Dodging"/"Stealth"/"Reputation" pages (expanding on classic Daggerfall gameplay bugs and mechanics), and the "Armor"/"Artifacts"/"Items"/"Weapons" pages (correcting information on equipment material modifiers, classic Daggerfall UI display bugs, etc.). Currently, I'm hoping for more data to further edit the Armor page (see discussion at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2478#p28907), and am following another discussion - classic testers needed! - re: Reputation and a possible DFU bug (see discussion at viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2424&start=30#p28691). Beyond that, I'd like to just continue to pick away at pages that need updating as I have the time.
This is about all from me for the mo. Really happy to see you all take the initiative on this - a clear and organized DFU wiki will help the community immensely, including the developers who have had to devote a huge amount of time recently answering the same questions repeatedly. Will keep a close eye on progress!