Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

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Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by pango » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:31 am

EP1 Adventure Begins
(0.7.65, no mods as far as I can tell)

Niranye the Idiot

That one is probably not exhaustive; But the first issue is important.

Very low skill advancement dagger breaks the game (skill increases displays, leveling up) (already fixed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=1782 character creation accepts dagger way down in red zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=3534 but each time passes, every skill is displayed as increased
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=4311 etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=5727 level 4 doing barely anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=6207 level 5 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=6534 level 6 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=6935 level 7 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=7850 level 8 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=8347 level 9 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=9582 level 10...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=10800 level 11...
He was also offered to join the thieves guilds without trying to pickpocket anybody
For reference, when the dagger is in a red zone, classic prevents you from going further in character creation:
"The difficulty of advancing dagger cannot be in the red. Select more advantages to move it up, or more disadvantages to move it down."

Travel time interpreted as hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=4891 "23 seems ok" for a month roundtrip travel

Can't climb out of Scourg Barrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=5576

Getting thru a cage by crouching (works as intended?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=7819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyB0-4LsQ4&t=7834 and again
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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by Jay_H » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:07 am

Crouching through a cage is classic, and possibly intended; in this instance it looks game-breaking, but other times you can be teleported via quest to the inside of a cage and have no way out.

Excellent work catching these, pango.
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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by BansheeXYZ » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:02 am

Jay_H wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:07 am
Crouching through a cage is classic, and possibly intended; in this instance it looks game-breaking, but other times you can be teleported via quest to the inside of a cage and have no way out.

Excellent work catching these, pango.
I'm not able to crouch my way through cages or wooden gates in classic. But I can in DFU. I don't know if all cages or gates are the same, though. The cages I'm testing with are the ones in the first imp room in Privateer's Hold.

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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by pango » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:20 pm

EP2 Butter Knife Simulator

Basically spending 1 hour 45 in Scourg Barrow seeking another exit (we should really find a fix for Can't climb out of Scourg Barrow)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=6344 using tapestry after looking it up

(advancement multiplier abuse doing its thing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=3986 level 12 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=5514 level 13 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=6806 level 14 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=7821 level 15 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=8537 level 16 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=8924 level 16 again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=9044 level 17 less than 2 mins later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=11069 level 18 ...
Enemies are scaling, and casters are starting to kick his butt, in part because Daggerfall Unity handles differently the racial paralyzation immunity + critical weakness to paralysis trick

Glitched thru the gate near the bottom of Scourg Barrows's rift by climbing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=5417

Can't buy Food/drink items (mod material?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=6761

Game didn't reload correctly after death (maybe similar to an already known reloading bug?) (already fixed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=9266 Nameless character, black screen unless Escape menu is displayed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=9304 fixed by restarting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=9387 happens again after being killed, solved by restarting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=9546 starts working
The Player.log would have been very useful
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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by Interkarma » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:20 pm

Thank you again Pango for collating all of this. :)

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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by BansheeXYZ » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:46 pm

pango wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:20 pm
Glitched thru the gate near the bottom of Scourg Barrows's rift by climbing ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=5417
Those are the wooden gate obstacles I'm talking about. Similar to the cages, you can slip between the bars while crouched. I think maybe the changes to crush mechanics are squeezing the pillbox a certain way and it's letting you through. But I haven't tested old versions of DFU with this, so maybe it was always there and the pillbox just needs widened.
Can't buy Food/drink items (mod material?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKIfMStqrs&t=6761
You can, but they're consumed immediately with no sound effects or text output. Just outputting "You eat the apple." and "You drink the ale." would be sufficient to prevent people from thinking that they go in your inventory.

In my opinion, a gold sound effect should also play any time the player buys something. This sound effect plays for equipment purchases, but strangely not on food or rooms. (one for spells has already been added)

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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by pango » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:52 pm

EP3 Dungeons, Dungeons, and More Dungeons
(0.7.65, no mods)

Being upset about quest item being behind a secret door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=401
I still think secret doors were easier to spot with Daggerfall classic 2d map than with DFU maps

Liches stuck in doorsteps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=1016
(several other times in the stream; mages, and likely other NPCs too)

(advancement multiplier abuse doing its thing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=1655 level 19 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=3020 level 20 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=3215 level 21 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=4849 level 22 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=6805 level 23 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=8867 level 24 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=12556 level 25 ...

Retrying Morgiah's Wedding using console
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=2141
(can that break things?)

Cyndassa and Mynisera doors need to be opened twice? (works as intended)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=3824
First time you get a flavor message; the second time they open

Vital gauges can still get stuck in some cases (not sure under what conditions)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=4854
It seems it happens here because the long rest is followed by a level up; This can also happen if you modify your condition (say, cast healing spells) after being technically dead (during your fall and screen fade out). That may not be exhaustive.
I created a PR

Loot not attached to their moving bridge, now levitating (matches classic; game data related?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=6980

Having a peek thru the ceiling (variant of Diving out of Geometry)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=9653

Double climbing mode message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=9886
Looks like the first time disengages almost immediately

Reloading a (quick)saved game made while climbing doesn't restore climbing mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=9992 falling to death repeatedly until using god mode

Console markup stops being interpreted after typing "opendoor" command (on a non-door object?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=10345

NPC messages too easy to click thru during combat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=10453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=12215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=12262
Most likely because he reversed mouse button bindings, as BansheeXYZ says below

Recipe for Potion of Unknown Powers found in an alchemy shop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=11301

Daylight can take a while to kick in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=12730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=12843
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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by mikeprichard » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:57 pm

Good Lord, these topics are like 1,000 bug reports! :lol: Thanks for taking the time to sort through the recent videos though.

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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by BansheeXYZ » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:50 am

pango wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:52 pm
Loot not attached to their moving bridge, now levitating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18JVhJOE3E&t=6980
Funny, I have a save of this exact area. Eventually, I think loot piles will need to be given some kind of physical status so that they are affected by gravity and moving floors the same way enemy sprites are. Is there a concern here that loot will fall through floors because of poor spawn points?
I know what's happening here. He's got his bindings flipped so that mouse0 is swing and mouse1 is activate. But gui and message window stuff don't honor these bindings, they're hard-coded to use mouse0. So his rapid clicking of mouse0 to swing is closing the window before he sees it.

This is a weird problem. I don't think people who bind like this this necessarily want to right-click or keypress in the ui. So I think click-through windows will need a 2 second timer where they can't be closed. Or we can just tell people not to bind swing to mouse0.

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Re: Isues seen during Calyptic G streams

Post by pango » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:50 pm

EP4 Doing Stuff In A Place
(0.7.65)

Floating labels on town map (already fixed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=638

(advancement multiplier abuse doing its thing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=1838 level 26 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=3671 level 27 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=7257 all skills but misc skills maxed out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=8047 all misc skills above 90%

Exiting a building inside the building (game data related?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=1794
Not a Klein bottle building :)

Overlapping MIDI music, stuttering sound effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=4647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=4672 then lockup when trying to exit building

"Warriors Festival" does not spawn people fighting each other (feature request?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=5524

Breath meter keeps going down while inventory is open (already fixed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=7566
Already reported, but confirmed

Death moan during death scene (already fixed?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=7637
He died from exhaustion (the lamia attacking his stamina), then I guess he died again from suffucation because the breath meter kept going down during death scene. So it is likely to be already fixed, with breath meter fix.

Drinking a potion of purification -> "You are invisible"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=7753
Scorpion stops attacking, so maybe he's really invisible

You can no longer find alternate material arrows in shops, but can still find some in loot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c67Z7aTUBs&t=7808
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