First level up delayed 0.7.126 WIN10X64

[Midknightprince]

In classic it only takes a few skill increases to level up the first time.
In the current live build it takes quite a bit of skill increases.
It is not like classic....

Went through all privateers hold, and there was more than 10 skill increases, and I didn't reach second level until I exited, joined the Mages Guild, and completed another Quest in the world proper, after yet more skill increases...

Don't know how long it's going to take me to reach level 3 we will see...

[pango]

Those skill increases must concern your primary skills, your 2 best major skills and your best minor skill (otherwise you can increase many skills and never level up).
Was it the case?

[Interkarma]

Please attach a save game so someone can look at your character. There are quite a few variables to levelling process, such as are you levelling the right skills.

I'll move to help and support until a bug is confirmed.

[Midknightprince]

Those skill increases must concern your primary skills, your 2 best major skills and your best minor skill (otherwise you can increase many skills and never level up).
Was it the case?

Yeah but the first level up your supposed to gain pretty quickly according to the unofficial pages https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Leveling_and_Skills

I've tested this in dfu Prior, and it always seemed to level up pretty quickly no matter what skills went up.

Now I just tested with a warrior and he got to level up after like five skill increases..
I then started a custom class with the same skills, same thing.
He leveled up after four or five skill increases ( it could have been more)..

But this guy I'm talking about had like 10 or so skill increases, and with the loading screen mod on you can see how close you are to leveling, and it was really slow, pluss I was still getting skill increases but no level like I said until I had done a quest, completed it, Etc, and then reached level two.

Again I think it's just getting to level two, and apparently It may have something to do with how I made that guy but he's already level 2 now without a save at level 1, so when I get the chance I'm going to recreate the exact same character and everything I did ( I cleared out the whole dungeon, and that seems odd to not at least reach level two with any character).

I will send the save when I get to my PC...

[Midknightprince]

Okay, here's the save..
This is the same guy on first lvl up (I found a save).
I've exited privateers hold, completed a quest, cruised around the world a bit, all before lvl 2..
It is A LOT of skill increases...

[pango]

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                "PrimarySkill1": "LongBlade",        31
                "PrimarySkill2": "Restoration",      49
                "PrimarySkill3": "Dodging",          31
                "MajorSkill1": "Alteration",         20
                "MajorSkill2": "Etiquette",          31
                "MajorSkill3": "Illusion",           (20)
                "MinorSkill1": "Thaumaturgy",        (15)
                "MinorSkill2": "ShortBlade",         21
                "MinorSkill3": "Destruction",        (15)
                "MinorSkill4": "Mercantile",         (16)
                "MinorSkill5": "Mysticism",          (15)
                "MinorSkill6": "Lockpicking",        (21)

31 + 49 + 31 + 20 + 31 + 21 = 183

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            "startingLevelUpSkillSum": 182,

I see only 1 skill increase contributing toward leveling up, so still one to go to reach level 2 if I did the math correctly.
There could be an issue with how startingLevelUpSkillSum is computed, but I don't know if anything changed in that department any recently...

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                "AdvancementMultiplier": 0.9230769,

            "skillUses": [
                49,             dodging (primary)
                13,             restoration (primary)
                12,             medical
                8,              running
                7,              longblade (primary)
                7               criticalstrike
                4,              impish
                2,              jumping
                2,              orcish
                1,              stealth
                1,              climbing
                ...

Did dodging increase more than once?

[pango]

I created a new archer character, and saved as soon as I was in Privateers Hold.
What surprised me is that the saved skills levels did not match what I saw in the last screen of character creation (the distribution of 6 extra skill points to primary, major, minor);
Last screen:

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Archery 36
Hand-to-Hand 30
Dodging 30

Axe 20
Blunt Weapon (19)
Critical Strike 24

Long Blade (13)
Short Blade 22
Climbing (15)
Jumping (13)
Running (16)
Swimming (16)

In first save:

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Archery 45
Hand-to-hand 33
Dodging 30

Axe 20
Blunt Weapon (19)
Critical Strike 30

Long Blade (13)
Short Blade 28
Climbing (19)
Jumping (19)
Running (16)
Swimming (16)

Are bonuses still applied after that?

But startingLevelUpSkillSum was consistent with saved values:
45 + 33 + 30 + 20 + 30 + 28 = 186

I leveled up quickly in Privateers Hold (Warm Ashes helped, I met lots of people... ?)
Unrelated, but I found many opponents to be rather dumb in dev build, staying still or turning around aimlessly... had just to shot them