[RESOLVED 0.10.21] Enemy in cage

[DRGNphrend]

enemy in cage inside a dungeon cannot be killed. they seem immune to melee weapon and magic. however the are able to attack the PC.

[Interkarma]

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For cases like this one, please attach a save game so we can reproduce. There could be many other causes you are unable to attack enemy than a bug.

[DRGNphrend]

windows x64 0.7.146
using CD daggerfall downloaded from bethesda with patch 2.13 installed

attached the save file as well.

[Jay_H]

Difficult to hit due to the back-and-forth enemy movement, but I managed it. It's just a skill to be learned.

[jayhova]

I have noticed enemies in cages are difficult to hit with arrows. Can anyone reproduce this? It seem like arrows tend to be sensitive to geometry.

Verbose Combat could tell you if you were anywhere near the target. Just saying it would make a useful diagnostic tool if nothing else.

[pango]

Sorry to have to revive that thread, but there's a second cage model with much closer bars, and I've seen a streamer whose quest target was a monk in such cage, in Azargoth Web, Daggerfall, and he couldn't hit him with either melee weapon of touch spells (that eventually got solved by finding a bow).

I reproduced the problem by going to the same dungeon and summoning an enemy into the cage. The cage collider seems fine, but I couldn't fix the issue by lowering the spherecast radius further...

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[pango]

With very small spherecast radii, I could kill the enemy but only under very specific angles (like in screenshot below: crouched, at a specific distance, slightly off-center...)

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I got the feeling that something is still a bit fishy with raycasting...

[Interkarma]

I wouldn't want to reduce SphereCollider radius much further at this point. I propose the following two-phase solution instead.

1. Perform spherecast test as now.
2. If that misses, perform a raycast test.

Provided user has enemy under crosshair with no obstructions, the raycast will target the enemy even between those bars.

[pango]

I expected that much, will see if it works better...

[pango]

I gave it a try: https://github.com/Interkarma/daggerfal ... t-fallback

And it seems to only partially help. It seems easier to hit without having to fix the exact weird angle that will work, but you still need to be at just the right distance from the cage...

PS I just realized that my patch above is incorrect, I need to think some more about it