Problem with a basic protect from assassination quest (a0c01y01)
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:09 pm
So Morgyana Masterley located at an Inn offers me a quest to Protect her from Assasination at the Wickwing Residence between 9 and MIdnight. I don't seem to be able to escort her, although I forget how that is done in Daggerfall anyway, which is something I'll have to learn.
So anyway, I go down to the Wickwing Residence finding it by asking about its location via the General Tab, I guess for locations. That gives me its location when close enough, and I'm info clicking on the residences if needed to get the name. So I find it with a little grunt work.
So far so good.
I try to enter the Wickwing Residence and it is locked. So I decide to use the Stealth Mode, and it lets me in. I remember a post about buildings not having a lock level yet in DFU, so that's okay as well.
Still so far so good.
Now come the problems.
In effect, I have to fight with several assassins who came to kill her, I suppose. There are numerous ways to fail this quest, I'm just going to list a few of the odd ones:
1) Even if I survive and kill all the assassins, if I load up a save done after they are killed, the Quest at first seems okay and still on the list, but a few seconds later if I check the Quest Log, it is shown as failed in the Finished Quests section. It takes a few seconds for this to happen, or you have to let it load and be out of the inventory etc menus for it to occur.
2) If I exit the house by accident, hitting the wrong door, I will fail the quest. Also it seems that killing the Assassins and exiting before Midnight, fails the protection task as well, probably because there could be a chance for more assassins up until Midnight, although none have appeared yet so far.
3) I think if I save the game at all, even without reloading, I fail the quest. Not absolutely positive on this, but I'm testing it further.
4) I'm going to have to double check this again, but it seems that if you kill the assassins and then wait for midnight to pass, you also fail the quest. (But it is possible this was a loaded save from after the assassins were killed, so that may be to blame here)
Now there are two possibilities which may be causing this issue and requiring me to just load a save from outside the building and not load from within, and maybe not even save from within the Wickwing Residence.
I'm guessing that DFU, and maybe Daggerfall did this as well, considers any loading of a save as an EXIT FROM THE BUILDING AND THEN RETURN and as I mentioned before in 2) that will fail the quest.
Likewise it is perhaps even possible that SAVING THE GAME WITHOUT A RELOAD, is considered exiting the building and fails the quest. That would surprise me, but it is worth checking again.
There is another possibility though. There was a clothing pile on the floor in one of the closets. I always pick that up. It doesn't cause an immediate failure of the quest though, so I think that is allowed. I think I remember getting away with that usually in the old Daggerfall Original also.
Lastly there is the possibility that killing the assassins fails the quest, which I find in this case a bit hard to believe.
So, I'm going to try one more time to LOAD A SAVE FROM JUST OUTSIDE THE Wickwing Residence, and try to survive and kill the assassins, then loiter until it is about midnight, and see what happens. I will not exit before Midnight, since the 9 to Midnight is the Protection Timeframe.
SUMMARY:
Loading any save from within the Residence fails the quest.
Possibly saving from within the Residence fails the quest, not 100% sure this.
Loading a save from within the Residence shows quest as active for a few seconds, but by after full loading and say 10 seconds in real-time, it shows it as failed. This even though all I did was check the Quest Log a few times and check the current Time a few times.
QUESTION:
Any idea what I am doing wrong? Pretty sure this is a standard quest. If loading a save from outside the Wicksley Residence and going straight thru without saving doesn't work, I'm going to just take my loot and live with the Rep loss, but then I'd think the quest is probably bugged, unless anyone has any ideas.