Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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jediborg
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Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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I have been playing the game for dozens of hours, wayrest has been my 'home base' this whole time. I'm at max rank with the Nights of the Rose and the Temple of Akatosh, I have done several quests for the nobles. By all accounts i should be highly respected but everytime i press the 'I' key it just says 'in the eyes of the laws of wayrest, you are a common citizen'

Shouldn't it say 'of wayrest, you are a Revered citizen'!? By looking at FactionData.txt my 'rep' is 99. My 'rank' is zero however. i tried editing my rank to be 1, 9, or 10, and no matter what i am still a 'common citizen' What gives? is there a bug with DFU?
I am using version 0.11.3

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jediborg
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Re: Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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I am on the final quest and haven't gotten a letter from kind edwyere bribing me to bring him the final quest item, i'm worried its due to this reputation/rank issue. My rep with the king is very high (85) WHY WONT WAYREST LOVE ME!!!??

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Re: Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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"Common citizen" is the rank of your legal reputation for the current region. This is lowered when you commit crimes and increased after you go to jail or when you do one of a handful of merchant/innkeeper quests. Your faction reputation gains won't affect legal reputation so unless you do one of the miscellaneous quests that can raise it you'll always be a "common citizen" at best. It's not intuitive but that's Daggerfall for you.

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Re: Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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Yes indeed ;) You can read more here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Rep ... ion_Titles. Take note that the referenced quest "A Mix-Up" currently isn't active in DFU.

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Re: Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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Yeah, I did a lot of quests for Knights of the Rose in Wayrest with a character and got the "revered" legal status. But I took all kinds of quests. If you are selective in what quest you take you might never do the ones that give legal rep.

Hm, having region rep boost legal rep might be something a mod could do. Take the average rep of region, court and knight, and then move the legal rep a tick towards that sum each day/week for example.

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Re: Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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Ralzar wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:56 am Yeah, I did a lot of quests for Knights of the Rose in Wayrest with a character and got the "revered" legal status. But I took all kinds of quests. If you are selective in what quest you take you might never do the ones that give legal rep.
That would be from Quest Pack 1. Daggerfall's knight quests won't increase your legal reputation, but QP1 includes several that do.

I thought it would be weird that this heroic, selfless knight is still considered a "common citizen" by the lords he serves :lol:

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Jay_H wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:57 am
Ralzar wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:56 am Yeah, I did a lot of quests for Knights of the Rose in Wayrest with a character and got the "revered" legal status. But I took all kinds of quests. If you are selective in what quest you take you might never do the ones that give legal rep.
That would be from Quest Pack 1. Daggerfall's knight quests won't increase your legal reputation, but QP1 includes several that do.

I thought it would be weird that this heroic, selfless knight is still considered a "common citizen" by the lords he serves :lol:
lol
"sire, the hero has heeded your summons. His return has mended the morale of the peasants beyond what we could muster."
the servant says, motioning to the gleaming knight who advances slightly and bows.
"M'lord"
"ah, great hero, you say." the old king turns
"Tis not I, I am heralded as such in these halls, sire" the hero said as he passes a warm smile to the king.
"and who might you be anyway?"
....

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Post by ruthan »

During character creation there is some reputation dialog.. It would be nice add it into game to show progress, because otherwise there is zero info about character region reputation.
Its simple to add some new button to character screen, or add it into notebook, or add it into affiliation part.. Simply your reputation in regions and list of regions, where player was (like Gold Bank info in Character sheet), or all regions. You can add reputations with 5 basic groups.. im not sure if these are all region based or not its a bit of mess as far there is zero messing of this in-game.. npc are angry was by default and only source is FractionData.. save text file, but even there name of fractions are not often straight forward..
Im supposed to have reputation in Wayrest 68, i dunno why but im still handled as scum..

There are also claims that rejecting quest does not change reputations, im not so sure about that.. print reputation changes somewhere would fix it.. i dont thing that is some sort of cheating if it would be optional.. because this part of original game is unfinished.
It still need a bit qualityOfLife not yet done mods,more 3D models props(in HandmadeMod), 3D enemies not colliding with walls + some alternative Hexen 2 like hack&slash dance mod and it would be a dream. I played Ultima0+, but i know what i want :D

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Re: Still just a 'common citizen' in wayrest

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Please don't necro old support topics. The only replies to support topics should be to assist the original poster with their question while active. This topic ended 3 years ago.

Use the general or community forums to start new discussions. Thank you.

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