To me this doesn't seem like a very good reason, why can't they just count downloads from registered users? You might point out that less people would get accounts, and you would be right. However they could just cap download speeds for non-registered users, and most people would just get an account.BadLuckBurt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:18 am They actually state their reason for it when you try to download something without being logged in:
We require all users to login to a Nexus Mods account when downloading to prevent abuse of our systems, to provide additional security and so we can reliably reward the mod authors on Nexus Mods via our Donation Points system (which relies on us being able to record accurate download statistics).
I'm not demanding that Nexusmods do this, I'm just saying they seem very stingy, and, for me at least, this ruins my experience with the site. I'm not going to repeat everything in the first post, but I will repeat that on Moddb, I could download a 1 gig Skyrim mod, without an account, at around 4-5 MB/s, which AFAIK is limited by my internet. What I'm trying to say is that from my experience Nexusmods is not a great site.
I have 2 or 3 times over the years, and not been particularly happy. The site is mostly quite nice, not my style, but certainly not bad. The download speeds are capped pretty low, according to someone else on this thread 1 MB/s. As a sidenote, it was obviously my fault, but I did lose all but 1 of sed accounts.
Worse than all of this though, was trying to sign up, Nexusmods uses Google reCAPTCHA during the sign up process. This might sound fine, but on data cleared Firefox with a VPN, it's a challenge, on Tor Browser, it's a nightmare. The process went similar to this last time:
1: Take 15 seconds to realize you don't need to click anything on the "chose a package" screen
2: Enter username and email
3: Enter password twice
4: Answer registration question
5: Flip both tick boxes
6: Spend anywhere between 10 to over 60 seconds trying to do the captcha
a: "could not connect to recaptcha server"
1: refresh page, repeat steps 3, 5, and 6
b: reCAPTCHA actually works continue to step 8
7: Click create account button
a: "captcha expired" (if you did the captcha too early, before other forms)
1: refresh page, repeat steps 3, 5, and 6
b: some other captcha error message
1: refresh page, repeat steps 3, 5, and 6
c: wow, it actually worked
8: Download mod
This whole process can take over 10 minutes sometimes, and when I just want to download a small mod, it's excruciating.
Meanwhile on Moddb, all I have to do is go to the mod page, click the files tab and select a file, and without an account I can download Enderal, a 7.8 Gigabyte mod, no account required. This whole process takes about 1 minute, and the mod also downloads ~5x faster for me.
Just to be very clear about what I'm arguing: I don't like Nexusmods, my experience with the site, particularly the signup process, have not been fun. You can use it, and enjoy it, but for at least some users, it can be a huge pain. Also their download requirements, and more so download speeds are relatively stingy (compared to Moddb).
That's my perspective at least!
Skipper
2 MB/s is still far from what I can get on Moddb, without an account. I don't see why they can't be more generous from the get-go.Skipper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:49 am By the way, I made a super simple mod for skyrim (for myself) and uploaded it to nexus, and as soon as 1000 people downloaded it, I was considered as "true mod author" and now nexus disabled ads for me, and doubled my bandwith (from 1 to 2 megabytes per second), which is a big deal.
King of Worms
It came off pretty passive aggressive to me, particularly;King of Worms wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:39 am I dont think that stating the reasons why I prefer to share my mods on nexus rather than on the DFU forums is aggressive. Is having a different opinion and explaining the reasoning behind that from the creators point of view considered aggressive nowadays?
andKing of Worms wrote: Im sorry you have a problem setting up a free account to download stuff for free
Either way, in response to:King of Worms wrote: Sleep well
Not a particularly great counter argument (to what I was trying to say at least, it might have come across wrong). As I detailed in my response to BadLuckBurt, for me the signup process takes quite a while longer than 20 seconds.King of Worms wrote: And one think to consider, some ppl spend 1000s of hours creating the mods for free, and you you feel bothered spending 20seconds to set a free account to download them?
Using your same argument (if it works for you?):
And one think to consider, you've spent 1000s of hours creating DREAM for free, and you you feel bothered spending 5 minutes to set a free account to upload them to another service?
Sleep well
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Just to be very clear about what I'm arguing: I don't like Nexusmods, my experience with the site, particularly the signup process, have not been fun. You can use it, and enjoy it, but for at least some users, it can be a huge pain. Also their download requirements, and more so download speeds are relatively stingy (compared to Moddb).