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Right now, no unfortunately. It's because they are using the same override for the Travel Map Window, I would consider them to be almost essential to work alongside this mod personally though.
Right, I haven't noticed that detail. I agree, that makes totally sense!Macadaynu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:15 am As you can see from the screenshot the cities are left in place, this is the same for each region, so you can just go to whatever region and fast travel / use Tedious Travel(Travel Options) to travel to whichever city you like.
Also if you are restricting yourself to only using fast travel via ship (between ports), this also works as every capital city has a port by default
Yeah, that's why I suggested cities to be an exception, so fast travel is still possible while greatly limited. Logic behind it is that an agent of the Empire would have knowledge of these at least, while being oblivious of any lesser location until visiting them by themselves or being told about them by the locals.andromacus wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:19 am I have a question on this: assuming I understood the idea correctly, don't you see the risk that with this mod it will become extremely difficult to leave Daggerfall region?
All you really need is all capitols being visible from the start. Or all port cities. After all, the captain of the boat you hire will know where the ports are, even if you do not.dani26795 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:30 pmYeah, that's why I suggested cities to be an exception, so fast travel is still possible while greatly limited. Logic behind it is that an agent of the Empire would have knowledge of these at least, while being oblivious of any lesser location until visiting them by themselves or being told about them by the locals.andromacus wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:19 am I have a question on this: assuming I understood the idea correctly, don't you see the risk that with this mod it will become extremely difficult to leave Daggerfall region?
Before you go too far into this and run into problems making this compatible with Travel Options: Have you checked if it is possible to simply set the locations to being undiscovered? Like most dungeons start out in the game? This might be an easier way of doing this than overriding the travel map and building your own.Macadaynu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:27 amRight now, no unfortunately. It's because they are using the same override for the Travel Map Window, I would consider them to be almost essential to work alongside this mod personally though.
So my plan now is to get a prototype for this built, and if it works / gets enough interest I'll pester Hazlenut to see if we can get them working together.
The checkLocationDiscovered method in DaggerfallTravelMapWindow is what I'm overriding, which in turn looks at the MapTableData.Discovered property, the MapSummary.Discovered property and the PlayerGPS.discoveredLocations.Ralzar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:24 pm Before you go too far into this and run into problems making this compatible with Travel Options: Have you checked if it is possible to simply set the locations to being undiscovered? Like most dungeons start out in the game? This might be an easier way of doing this than overriding the travel map and building your own.
I thought this could be configurable, so in the mod settings the user gets to control which location types are discovered straight away.
What I was hoping was that there was a method for discovering new locations that could be done in reverse to forget locations insteadMacadaynu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:00 pmThe checkLocationDiscovered method in DaggerfallTravelMapWindow is what I'm overriding, which in turn looks at the MapTableData.Discovered property, the MapSummary.Discovered property and the PlayerGPS.discoveredLocations.Ralzar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:24 pm Before you go too far into this and run into problems making this compatible with Travel Options: Have you checked if it is possible to simply set the locations to being undiscovered? Like most dungeons start out in the game? This might be an easier way of doing this than overriding the travel map and building your own.
PlayerGPS.discoveredLocations is a private collection, and the class cannot be overridden. You could potentially make this public, but that means changes to core code, and then updating all the data in there (and it's probably private for a reason).
ContentReader.mapDict houses all the MapSummaries, and is also private and can't be interacted with. You could again change this, but probably not advised for the same reasons.
The way I'm doing it is letting the mod determine whether or not a location is discovered, seems overall safer to me, and it makes it less complicated than making all those changes.
However, the mod needs to work with Basic Roads in my opinion, I don't think I'm too far off a basic prototype now, so we can see how it looks without it and go from there.
You can "Undiscover" a building, but not a location as far as I'm aware (would be great if someone corrected me on that though
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