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More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:27 am
by King of Worms
Hi,

is it possible to add more resolutions to retro mode?

Id like to see 800x600 and 1024*768 as well. It doesnt have to be only the super low 320x200 and semi-usable 640x400 (which I actually like)

It would be a good addition for DREAM 90s. It looks really nice at 640x400 but Id really love to see the other 2 mentioned resolutions, which are oldskool as well.

Please :) 960×720 would also fit... all are the old 4:3 resolutions. And they were possible at those times... I remember trying Tomb Raider 2 (1997) at 1600*1200 slideshow back in the day. So up to 1024x768 is still quite reasonable for the time period.
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Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:52 am
by DunnyOfPenwick
I could add those modes to the retro-frame mod if you want.

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:20 am
by King of Worms
DunnyOfPenwick wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:52 am I could add those modes to the retro-frame mod if you want.
That would be very cool. But I dont think I want it tied to that HUD (eventho I like it a lot)
Is it possible to just have the resolutions and enable/disable the hud and the 4:3 aspect correction?

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:49 pm
by DunnyOfPenwick
I'll see if I can make the changes and submit a PR.
What modes would you want exactly?

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:43 pm
by King of Worms
DunnyOfPenwick wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:49 pm I'll see if I can make the changes and submit a PR.
What modes would you want exactly?
Great!! 800x600 and 1024x768 are classics :) those will be enough
Thanks a lot ;)

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:37 am
by Kab the Bird Ranger
Wouldn't it make more sense to have higher 16:10 resolutions that people would apply a 4:3 / 16:9 aspect ratio fix on? The point of retro mode is to match the original resolution

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:42 am
by King of Worms
Kab the Bird Ranger wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:37 am Wouldn't it make more sense to have higher 16:10 resolutions that people would apply a 4:3 / 16:9 aspect ratio fix on? The point of retro mode is to match the original resolution
Hi :)

Currently we have 320x200 & 640x400 in retro mode. So I thought adding 800x600 & 1024x768 would be a reasonable upgrade to that.

I think a Retro mode is used in various ways.
I personally dont use the aspect fix part for example. I want my 16:10 monitor to render full-screen, with no black borders.

Im also not trying to match the original resolution - what I want from Retro mode is, to be able have a lower resolution than my native. If I select for example 640x480 or 1024x768 in a current DFU (no retro mode) I get automatic aspect correction. So black borders at the side. Thats not the case with retro mode, where I can select any of the 2 resolutions, and I get full-screen coverage.

So the thing I would like to see is, to have retro mode with these 2 more new resolutions, so I can play in that resolution without a aspect correction.

If you think, adding even higher 16:10 resolutions is a good idea, than by all means!
1280×960
1600×1200
come to my mind.

Above that, we get to HD territory.

Hope I did not misunderstood your comment :lol:

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:57 pm
by DunnyOfPenwick
So you're primarily interested in achieving a certain 'pixelation' effect?
In that case, would it be better to invent a custom mode rather than use the historical modes that were designed for 4:3?

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:16 pm
by King of Worms
DunnyOfPenwick wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:57 pm So you're primarily interested in achieving a certain 'pixelation' effect?
In that case, would it be better to invent a custom mode rather than use the historical modes that were designed for 4:3?
So you're primarily interested in achieving a certain 'pixelation' effect?
yes, exactly
would it be better to invent a custom mode rather than use the historical modes that were designed for 4:3
Im not sure what you mean with custom mode?

I know that when I use retro mode 640x400 it looks good and covers my whole screen. And I just wanted same functionality with a bit higher resolutions as a option. Thats why my idea was, to increase the variation of Retro mode resolutions.

Because the standard resolutions in DFU dont work the same way as a retro mode, they keep the original aspect ratio aka produce black bars on the screen. Thats why I think custom resolutions will produce same effect, with letterboxing. Only retro mode renders fullscreen without aspect correction and thats what Im looking for. Lower resolutions but WITHOUT letterboxing.

Re: More resolutions for Retro Mode please?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:24 pm
by DunnyOfPenwick
So for example you could have a 960x540 mode for 16:9 screens. The pixels would be exactly 4 times bigger than 1920x1080 mode. Then a 840x525 mode for 16:10 displays, where the pixels are 4 times bigger than 1680x1050 mode., or 960x600 etc.